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User: Gwyn B. 10 years ago
Will there be a time where Everweb will have the ability to be a responsive website?
User: Paul-RAGESW 10 years ago
It is something we are working on but we don't have a time line of when it will be added at this time.

Responsive websites are not always the correct solution. They change their appearance based on the size of your browser, meaning your site will look different to different people depending on the size of their web browser.

Create a mobile site, which EverWeb can already do, is usually a better, and easier solution.

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Paul
EverWeb Developer
User: Roddy 10 years ago
I spent quite a lot of time in the past doing the front end coding for responsive sites and, from this experience, I can agree with Paul that a responsive website is not the best solution in most cases. It is possible to create a one size fits all design but, to do it successfully, you really need to have a good working knowledge of media queries and be prepared to spend a lot of time testing the layout on all the different devices.

Ideally you should have a fixed width version of the site for visitors who are using personal computers and a responsive version for those on mobile devices.
It's better to design a mobile site as a separate project because it has different requirements like the fact that all the user inputs should be bigger and that hovers (mouseover) don't work on these devices.
Mobile sites need less content and a minimum of images which should be carefully optimized. Most traditional web designers are used to having a large canvas to fill up with unnecessary whistles in the hope of impressing their clients and find it difficult to let them go.

More info HERE.

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Roddy

Website: http://everwebwidgets.com
Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html
NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own.
User: Gwyn B. 10 years ago
Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I agree. I'm not concerned about mobile sites, I know I can create that on Everweb. What I want to do is make my page where the content is always centered no matter the size of the screen being used whilst also having the shapes (filled boxes) extend to the edges of the screen. For instance: http://www.ymcatwincities.org/camps/camp_st_croix/ This YMCA website responds to fit your screen no matter the size of your screen. My site: www.ymcacampbenson.org does not do that. If I design it to fit my screen (17in mac) then it's incredibly large on other screens. So I have the content centered in the middle of the page and the white background in the back when I'd much rather extend those top and bottom blocks to the edge of everyones screen. I want to be able to do what the first site did without having people with smaller screen scroll left to right. Is that possible with Everweb? Am I making sense?
User: Paul-RAGESW 10 years ago
Hi Cory,

Unfortunately that is not yet possible in EverWeb but something we are working towards.

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Paul
EverWeb Developer
User: Roddy 10 years ago
Responsive designs are more suited to websites aimed at mobile devices. On these machines, the user has no control over the browser width like they do on actual computers.

Wide pages are not a good idea and the generally accepted "standard" width is 980px.I don't even look at websites that are wider than around 1000px since I don't have my browser window extended further than this and refuse to resort to horizontal scrolling.

Even with designs that employ a dynamic width, most designers would set a maximum width so that the contents won't spread out across wider screens. The designer of the website you referred to obviously doesn't realise this and hasn't looked at the site when viewed at full width on a 27 inch screen!

If you look at the media queries in the stylesheet for the above mentioned site you will see that the upper limit is around 1200 px but the designer hasn't locked it at that. When viewed on my iMac at the full width of the screen it is stretched out so much that it looks deformed.

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Roddy

Website: http://everwebwidgets.com
Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html
NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own.
User: Megan R. 9 years ago
Any updates on this feature being bought into everweb?? Many websites now use this and I would really like to incorporate this into my website. Eg: http://trans-savoie.com/ and http://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en/us Thanks
User: Gwyn B. 9 years ago
It's a GREAT question Megan R. The lack of this feature is the only reason we are looking at other options besides Everweb right now.
User: Raf P. 9 years ago
The ability to create responsive sites in EW would make EW as well as complete. It's almost a must to have this feature because the competition is running very fast.

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Kind regards,

Raphael Pairoux
User: Gwyn B. 9 years ago
Couldn't agree more Raf. I've tried even to share well document thoughts on Twitter with Everweb here was the response I got over the weekend: "@everwebapp: @coryharrison Just someone's opinion without any real reason why it is a big problem…"

Newsflash: it's a problem. Stop insulting your customers on social media and instead reach out to the everweb community and see what they need.
User: Samuel V. 9 years ago
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"@everwebapp: @coryharrison Just someone's opinion without any real reason why it is a big problem…"

And they ask why it is a problem ? Are they on another planet where different devices screens with different pixel densities don't exist ???

The mobile page only is absolutely insufficient when providing a mobile version (it was a workaround for the last years). WE NEED a real responsive design and not an ersatz !!!

Last edit 9 years ago
User: Jumbo T. 9 years ago
I want, I want, I want, I need, I need, I need.

Stop whining.

You've bought EW, because that's the most you can understand.

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User: Samuel V. 9 years ago
Quote: Jumbo T. - 03/01/2015 7:34:33
You've bought EW, because that's the most you can understand.

Really ? You never bought a product to support a product / company ?

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Stop whining

OK. Bye bye. Canceling today ... Poor man
User: Jumbo T. 9 years ago
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You never bought a product to support a product / company ?


No. But I do give to charity.

BTW, Did you follow the links?
User: Paul-RAGESW 9 years ago
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Newsflash: it's a problem. Stop insulting your customers on social media and instead reach out to the everweb community and see what they need.


A "responsive website" will still require a lot of work even when it is implemented in EverWeb because you have to make sure everything works and looks properly on all devices. Many responsive websites currently online use complex code and don't even work nicely on all browser sizes. They are also limited in their design. Do you think a web design product can automatically determine what objects you want visible and where you want them to go on your website?

That wasn't an insult, it's a discussion. I'll give you many reasons why a separate mobile website is beneficial so tell me why you need something and we can go from there. We listen to all of our customers and we are working on responsive features but that doesn't mean it's always the right solution just because other people are doing it or someone on the Internet says so.

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And they ask why it is a problem ? Are they on another planet where different devices screens with different pixel densities don't exist ???


Different pixel density screens is not related to a responsive website. EverWeb supports that already. It also has a solution for mobile devices and different screen sizes.

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The mobile page only is absolutely insufficient when providing a mobile version (it was a workaround for the last years). WE NEED a real responsive design and not an ersatz !!!


Why is it insufficient?


Guys, we are listening and working on these things. But quoting articles online and telling me something is insufficient isn't helping. As I said above, you will still need to specify what objects you want to appear at each screen dimension, where you want objects to be placed on each screen dimensions etc... That is how all the responsive website builders work right now. Otherwise they are hand coded and it is very difficult to create that way as well.

Guys, this is not an insult to you, I am trying to help make sure your expectations are set correctly.

The current tools that provide responsive designs either;
- Limit your design
- Require separate designs for each device and just hide or show objects based on the browser size

Last edit 9 years ago

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Paul
EverWeb Developer


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