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Massively disappointing !
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User: Guest 12 years ago
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Unfortunately I find hopes of a decent replacement for iweb have now faded away. The beta software I tested is not at all user friendly or even fully functional and for a web designer and photographer who needs to showcase work professionally the software is useless. What the team have failed to do is provide an easy way to make a web site that is simple and beautiful (it is easy to make an ugly web site) - an opportunity has been missed here to produce a winning product. Best of luck in developing this product but it is not for me thanks. Ruperto |
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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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As a "a web designer and photographer who needs to showcase work professionally" you should know that software doesn't create "a web site that is simple and beautiful". That part is up to you. If you are a designer, EasyWeb provides the tools to create any type of website. You just need to learn to use the tools. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: jdm4given 12 years ago
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| I dont see any difference between iWeb and Easyweb. I have only owned a computer for 3 years and built my 25 page website in 2 days.....I'd agree with Roddy, but, like everything in life, it's not for everyone. There are a bunch of folks who find this software identical as iWeb and some, well, who haven't taken the time to learn it. If I can make a decent looking website in 2 days, I would say it's user friendly as I am at the bottom of the pyramid as far as technical knowledge about coding, etc goes. I would give it some more time to grow on you and give the staff some ideas for future updates. From what I see, the staff at Rage take everything into consideration including BETA user comments about future updates. There is a whole section on this blog about "future feature requests". Maybe take some time to write down what you would like to see and see what they think. You may think my website is ugly and not very professional but , like I said, I am new at this and did this one in 2 days. Here is the link: http://thebridgeal.org . | |
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User: Yelena 12 years ago
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Quote: Unfortunately I find hopes of a decent replacement for iweb have now faded away. The beta software I tested is not at all user friendly or even fully functional and for a web designer and photographer who needs to showcase work professionally the software is useless. Maybe someone who has so little experience should not be testing a Beta Version - it is NOT a finished program... But I must say that even without any technical knowledge it is pretty easy to create something simple and nice with EasyWeb. It is rather unfair to make such harsh pronouncements... I love IWeb but it had to be learned too - even to use its very basic features. It is not easy to switch from anything you are used to... ------------------------------- Yelena MacBook Pro OS X 10.10.3 IMac 21" OS X 10.10.3 |
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User: Guest 12 years ago
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I have to admit that I too, had higher hopes or expectations for EasyWeb but, it is still in beta ... still has the opportunity to iron out a lot of the rough edges. I have since moved on to the Creative Cloud @ $600 a year while not happy about renting my software it does better suit my needs. |
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User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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Quote: What the team have failed to do is provide an easy way to make a web site that is simple and beautiful (it is easy to make an ugly web site) - an opportunity has been missed here to produce a winning product. Can you please be more specific? What is EasyWeb missing? How is it different from iWeb? I am really trying to understand why you would say it is not user friendly when it works almost exactly like iWeb. Please provide some specific features you feel it is missing... What were you trying to do that you didn't know how to do? ------------------------------- Paul EverWeb Developer |
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User: Guest 12 years ago
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A couple of quick examples: 1st is the photo gallery, need the option to control the # of photos per page and have some way of labeling the photos: 2nd is the image masking "cropping" users shouldn't have to inflate the image to mask or crop it. "I know ideally everyone would size or crop their images in a photo editor before using them in EasyWeb but, many of the other apps including iWeb support cropping the image so, ideally EasyWeb should also" |
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User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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Hi Jeff, I know the features you want and they are very high on our priority list. But I still don't think that justifies being "Massively disappointing!". I would really like to hear from the original poster what specific features he is missing and what makes EasyWeb unintuitive... ------------------------------- Paul EverWeb Developer |
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User: Yelena 12 years ago
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I don't think you should take that comment seriously, Paul - it looks like he spent 5 seconds with it and got disappointed...:) Not serious....
------------------------------- Yelena MacBook Pro OS X 10.10.3 IMac 21" OS X 10.10.3 |
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User: Guest 12 years ago
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| I think the navigation widget should at least hold the settings from the previously designed menu (font, color, link style) many people used the built-in navigation in iWeb that did not require them to copy ... paste or create a new navigation menu on each new page they created | |
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User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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Yes, I will see what I can do with the navigation menu.
------------------------------- Paul EverWeb Developer |
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User: mark 12 years ago
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I appreciate very much Paul and Rage working on an iWeb replacement but I too have been pretty disappointed so far and find myself looking for an alternative. iWeb saw its last major update with the release of iLife '09 in January 2009. That's roughly 4 1/2 years ago. I feel like EasyWeb hasn't yet even made it to the level of iWeb yet. Much less surpassed and brought it up to date. Yes the new widgets are nice, but with pasting in HTML code into iWeb you could do pretty much any "widget". I personally can't stand the new window for each site. Some people may not mind it but I used iWeb for not only managing multiple sites but also as a scratch pad for future sites and ideas. Having everything one window - unless I wanted to separate it, which I could do as well - made it so much easier to keep up with everything. Also these days my #1 request from clients is a dynamic/responsive site. Which I fully expected (hoped) EasyWeb was going to be capable of, but isn't. I'm not saying it's easy to make that happen. Probably very difficult. But online web builders are doing it and have been for a while now. VIRB, WIX, Weebly, SquareSpace, not to mention WordPress themes... all have mobile options at the very least and most of these are fully responsive. So much of the wen is viewed on mobile devices these days... a static website is just not enough these days. Like I said my clients are requesting mobile / responsive sites. If clients know to request this and are - it's not a wish but a requirement. I want to love EasyWeb and have it be my go to app, so I keep checking back on the progress and giving it a try. I understand it's not finished - so I am hoping mobile will be a strong focus as that is where everything is at these days. In fact mobile internet usage and revenues are to overtake fixed internet access and revenues by 2014! That's less than 6 months away! Any site that can't be optimized fr mobile is at a huge disadvantage. The only option I see with EasyWeb at this time is to design 2 sites. A Static, and a mobile. Lots more work for me and a less than ideal end result. Google also does not recommend the 2 different site approach (a regular and a mobile with the m.website.com) for SEO purposes. I guess my biggest issue really is that it doesn't seem to bring iWeb far enough (if any) into the present. The present requirement are mobile optimized and responsive sites. I believe on the FB page for EasyWeb 'Mobile' won by a landslide as the "most important feature." I'll try to attach the screen shot below for reference. My advice would be to focus on mobile and responsive web site design and bring that up to speed and you'll have a winning app. EasyWeb is just not there yet for me to be able to use it... I've still got my fingers crossed though. And I'll keep on giving it a try. You guys are a good company and I am glad you are attempting this. Hoping you succeed with flying colors! |
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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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Some info here for those who are new to website design, structure and layout planning... http://ragesw.net/easyweb-beta/viewtopic.php?f=6...t=504 The EasyWeb default navigation will self generate new pages and maintain the styling if you go about creating your site using the basic principles of web design. Websites need to be planned and not created one page at a time. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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@mark: Thank you for your feedback. We do understand the importance of responsive websites and are working towards that. Creating a mobile friendly site is more about just responsiveness. Sometimes a responsive website is not the right way to go and a separate mobile version is necessary. In addition, retina graphics is very important for Mobile (and new desktop computers) which most other web building products don't support. We are working on creating a really great responsive design tool though and some parts in EasyWeb are already responsive. Keep in mind too that as you build your website you cannot just click a button to make it responsive. Although you won't have to mess with code, there will still be work involved in creating a website that works well for Mobile users. ------------------------------- Paul EverWeb Developer |
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User: mark 12 years ago
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@Paul, Good to hear! And I agree with everything you said. Mobile is about more than just responsiveness and sometimes a responsive site is not the right choice, but I'm finding that more often than not these days it is the best choice (at least for my clients and my own projects). And yeah, I've never seen a button turn a site into a great mobile/responsive site ;) I don't think anyone would expect that - just the capabilities to design a responsive site. You guys definitely have a much taller order to fill than iWeb had when it was released. These days the competition is stiffer and the demands greater. Hoping it happens though! Love that you guys are going to support retina! |
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