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FIX THIS ! Images folder !!
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User: Peter B. 11 years ago
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As a EverWeb user I have been using this program for many sites now and been hosting them on my webserver. I am now getting really concerned with the added data usage the ( sorry for this ) stupid way EverWeb handles images. With most sites I use the template option, just to save on needlessly recreating the same page over and over and to make things look similar. This works nicely but as sites grow *each and every page * get's it's own set of images. So not only is the whole benefit of the template minimized to just setting items on a fixed location. It also reproduces every image in the template page over and over again. It renames them to shape_xx files instead of just referring to the image location and name which is much easier and faster. So a site that has 20 pages will have 20 times the same image from the header in each and every page folder the program makes. When a header is at 500 K ( for a big header ) this results in 10 MB of wasted space and additionally 10 MB of useless unneeded data transfer per visitor.. It also screws up the whole cache-setting in the browsers or on the server, which is there to lower data transfer. I had one site pull 1600 MB overnight just due to many people visiting it. Most of the data from this 1600 MB was purely reloading the same images from various subfolders. You really, really need to fix this Paul, and do it fast, as this is a serious NO-NO for me to continue using this software. Various people have asked about this various times and it has never ever been implemented or updated. This really cannot go on this way. Please fix this...AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Create a folder where we can store the images and refer to that folder from each image. This will make the browsers cache the images and will lower data usages in various ways. it's website design 101 Paul...Seriously... Hope you can fix this asap. Peter |
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User: Roddy 11 years ago
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If you want a fast downloading page you need to avoid using templates and shape images and create your own using CSS and/or widgets. Using a master page(s) and a template page(s) makes website building go a lot faster. Quote: Create a folder where we can store the images and refer to that folder from each image. We already have this - ewExternalFiles. In the HTML5 section of the EverWeb Codebox there is only one image in an "Images" folder which was used for the comparison on THIS page. All the rest are in the external files folder - suitably named so that they can be found fast. EverWeb has all the tools for creating professional quality websites with fast downloading pages . We just need to learn to use them properly. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: Peter B. 11 years ago
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Roddy, thank you for your views. I agree with you that there are always workarounds, but the are...work arounds... The solution you suggest is workable but it negates the purpose of EverWeb. It's supposed to be a wysiwyg editor and as such it works but the code it generates is plain awful. In the past ( 2001 - 2003 ) I used FrontPage and this was known for it's bugs and issues but at least that had an option where the use could edit the finally created html code. EverWeb does not have this option ( not referring to HTML Widget ) . It will make it a lot more useful and others have pointed this out before, if the software just references the files directly instead of blatantly copying them into subfolders, would make the generated website more efficient and have a lower profile. As for templates. There is an option within Apache to use includes ( Frontpage used them ) even within HTML, so there are many more options that can make this all work better. Right now it generates image-like-files with an html extension. Regards, Peter |
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User: Paul-RAGESW 11 years ago
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When you add an image to your website from the assets you are able to resize it, adjust the transparency, crop it, add borders and more. So unless the image is added the exact same, EverWeb can't just make a single folder with the images. It would have to determine what images are the same and which ones are not. What we are working on is making Master page images have their own folder for the images so those are shared since that is easier to do. Many shapes are already added using CSS and not images such as rectangles set as color fill and some gradient settings. If you want to share an image between multiple pages you can use the HTML snippet and external files right now though. ------------------------------- Paul EverWeb Developer |
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User: Christopher 11 years ago
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Quote: Paul-RAGESW - 14/01/2015 9:21:38 What we are working on is making Master page images have their own folder for the images so those are shared since that is easier to do. Many shapes are already added using CSS and not images such as rectangles set as color fill and some gradient settings. The OP raises some very good points. But if you can at least contain and reference the images for the master page, that would work for me. Regarding CSS being used on rectangles, does this not apply if opacity is reduced? I have solid rectangle shapes and others with top/bottom gradient. They're all being converted to images. ------------------------------- rMBP 15", 2.6 Ghz, 16 GB RAM, OS X 10.11.6, with 27" Thunderbolt Cinema Display www.cleetche.com |
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User: Paul-RAGESW 11 years ago
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Regarding CSS being used on rectangles, does this not apply if opacity is reduced? In the current version it exports as an image, in version 1.8 it will use the CSS opacity features. ------------------------------- Paul EverWeb Developer |
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User: Peter B. 11 years ago
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Paul, Thanks for your reply. Let me address some things you say: Adjusting images True the program can adjust images but the transparency adjustment is more an opacity adjustment of the whole image. I had expected the program to be able to adjust the alfa-value of images just as Apple does in it's Pages document. If I am correct that's a feature multiple programs use. Even in Preview i can adjust alfa. Would be nice to have these options in the program as well. Master page It would be a very good idea to change the Master page into something the references the same images instead of copying these to each separate folder the program makes. Image referencing Some of the effects used are CSS effects and as such you could refer to the original image in a folder and apply the CSS effects to that. ?? Seems that the program converts CSS effects to images to allow compatibility with various browsers. External files I have tried to put files in the external folder but even some pdf files get auto added to the images folder. Cheers, Peter |
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User: Ana F. 11 years ago
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Hello, I have a website with several images - and i have it in 3 languages. The website is big because of the images. Is there any chance you could put all images in one folder? Or why not implement css sprites? That would be great Wbw Ana |
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User: Ana F. 10 years ago
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Hello? Anyone? I'm waiting for an answer for that for over a year now... any possibility that the images could be all in one folder - and not for every website one folder? or somehow let the program make a sprites image ? |
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User: Roddy 10 years ago
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If you created each site on a separate project file you would need to have the "master" images folder in the root and link to the images from each sub site manually. You could only do this if the sites are published to a server other than the EverWeb one. I'm not seeing how sprites would help except in the reduction of server requests. The number of images would be reduced but the image size would be tripled. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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