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Handling graphics and text.



User: Don B. 9 years ago
First of all I like the basic program from playing around with it some today. The fact that I can change the font, colors and the size of the words in the menu is super. Making submenus is also something I really need. Some of the things that this program can do are amazing but I have to buy extra "widgets" to do them.

I'm very uncertain about all the Wigets. They seem to be very cumbersome and more a way to make more money than something that is drag and drop as advertised. If I read correctly I'll need to add the widget to a page before I can do some very simple things that I can easily do in iWeb, i.e. make a picture into a link to my website or the Internet, create a gallery, add captions to photos in the gallery, etc. This certainly doesn't sound like drag and drop to me. Maybe I'm not understanding them. Your promise of drag and drop is causing the following problems for me already after just a few hours with the program.

I've been using ArtText 2 to create headings and titles for iWeb. Example: The date and week count Text that looks like wood) near the top of page -- . These words transfer over using the clipboard from ArtText to iWeb. When trying it with EverWeb I get a white background with the text. The same thing happens when I copy the Art Text from iWeb and paste it into Everweb as shown on your video. I was planning to use more ArtText titles if I have to rebuild my website when I transfer over. Obviously this isn't going to work if there isn't some way around the issue. BTW -- I did notice the widget for 3-D test but the link didn't work. I'm assuming that if I used it I would still have to use web safe fonts. That circumvents one of the reasons for using Art Text.

I also use the Photo Workshop feature in the program Print Shop to crop photos before placing them in iWeb. They just slide from Print Shop to iWeb with no copy/paste necessary. When I tried this with EverWeb I get a white background with the picture. Yes' I can crop them using my Photoshop Elements program but that is much more difficult and complex that the cropping feature in Print Shop. An example: The dog profiles on

Is there a feature in EverWeb like the photo masking feature in iWeb? I don't use it often but it's very handy.


Thanks!
User: Paul-RAGESW 9 years ago
Hi Don,

Anything that can be done with iWeb can pretty much be done with EverWeb without purchasing any additional widgets. EverWeb provides the opportunity to create widgets rather easily (while it was more difficult in iWeb) so third party developers have taken on the task of making additional widgets available for your convenience.

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If I read correctly I'll need to add the widget to a page before I can do some very simple things that I can easily do in iWeb, i.e. make a picture into a link to my website or the Internet, create a gallery, add captions to photos in the gallery, etc.


These can be done with the built in widgets and functions of EverWeb. Just like you did with iWeb, the process of adding an image that is linked to another page and a gallery with captions is built in and is done with virtually the same process. Simply drag and drop your image into EverWeb and select it, then go to the Hyperlinks tab in the Inspector and link it to anywhere you want.

For image galleries, this video tutorial will provide a better explanation of using the free, built in Image Gallery Widget.

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I've been using ArtText 2 to create headings and titles for iWeb.


Sounds like your issue is that the images created with ArtText are jpegs instead of pngs. Jpegs don't support transparency, but PNGs do. This would be the case for iWeb as well, so I am not sure if this is the reason. If you can post one of these images here, or send them to support, I can get a better idea of the issue.

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I also use the Photo Workshop feature in the program Print Shop to crop photos before placing them in iWeb.


Can you provide a link to this program so I can take a look at it.

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They just slide from Print Shop to iWeb with no copy/paste necessary.


I don't understand what you mean by slide from Print Shop to iWeb. You must have to add them to you iWeb page in some way? Please let me know...

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Is there a feature in EverWeb like the photo masking feature in iWeb? I don't use it often but it's very handy.


Yes, it is under the Format menu.

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Paul
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User: Don B. 9 years ago
Hi,

The Art Text images do work directly with iWeb but as you say I lose the transparency of the background in EverWeb. In Art Text the images are saved to the clipboard and then can be pasted directly in iWeb with a "transparent" background. They can also be pasted directly into Print Shop the same way. Your statement that your program treats images the same way that iWeb does is incorrect.

I placed links to my website for examples but for some reason your forum software removed the links. I'll try again.

Dog outline images created by cropping with Print Shop on
http://woebgonbassets.com/WoebgonBassets/Welcome.html

The text from Art Text is the text in a western font that looks like wood as you scroll down page
http://woebgonbassets.com/WoebgonBassets/Present_Litters.html

Website for Art Text --- http://www.belightsoft.com/products/arttext/overview.php
Website for The Print Shop --- http://www.mackiev.com/print_shop.html


Sorry I can't tell you more.





The same happens with images that are cropped or otherwise altered in Print Shop. With Print Ship my term slide is perhaps another way of saying drag and drop. I simply grab the graphic and drag it directly from Print Shop to iWeb. No cut and paste is necessary. All changes to the graphic, i.e. all sorts of different cropping options, special edges that are available only in Print Shop, grouping photos text and shapes together as a single image, etc. When I tried this with EverWeb I get a white background that is, as you state, no longer transparent. It's white.

I realize many are not familiar with the Print Shop program. Like I said, I've been using it since it was first created by Broderbund for the Apple ][ and IIe many years ago. It was one of the very first, if not the first, programs that combined graphics and text. Over the years there have been numerous versions. I'm currently using one that can be found at:
I'm surprised that people who use Macs aren't familiar with the Macintosh programs by Maciev Software. They have been in business longer than most companies who offer software for the Mac.

While I've been using computers for a long time and even taught computer science courses at the university level I've never wanted to get into programming beyond some of the very basics. I have no idea what the difference is in the way iWeb and EverWeb handle graphics but I can tell you what the difference is in the end product. I can
User: Don B. 9 years ago
Hi,

The Art Text images do work directly with iWeb but as you say I lose the transparency of the background in EverWeb. In Art Text the images are saved to the clipboard and then can be pasted directly in iWeb with a "transparent" background. They can also be pasted directly into Print Shop the same way. Your statement that your program treats images the same way that iWeb does is incorrect. One of the features of the latest version of Art Text is creating words and shaped that can be used as "buttons" on websites. The fact that these images don't maintain their transparency in EverWeb would keep someone like me for using their program for that purpose. Art Text is only one of several Mac programs put out by Belight Software.

The same happens with images that are cropped or otherwise altered in Print Shop. With Print Ship my term slide is perhaps another way of saying drag and drop. I simply grab the graphic with the mouse and drag it directly from Print Shop to iWeb. No cut and paste is necessary. All changes to the graphic, i.e. all sorts of different cropping options, special edges that are available only in Print Shop, grouping photos text and shapes together as a single image, etc. When I tried this with EverWeb I get a white background that is, as you state, no longer transparent. It's white.

I realize many are not familiar with the Print Shop program. Like I said, I've been using it since it was first created by Broderbund for the Apple ][ and IIe many years ago. It was one of the very first, if not the first, programs that combined graphics and text. Over the years there have been numerous versions. I'm currently using one that can be found at:
I'm surprised that people who use Macs aren't familiar with the Macintosh programs by Maciev Software. They have been in business longer than most companies who offer software for the Mac.

While I've been using computers for a long time and even taught computer science courses at the university level I've never wanted to get into programming beyond some of the very basics. I have no idea what the difference is in the way iWeb and EverWeb handle graphics but I can tell you what the difference is in the end product.

I placed links to my website for examples but for some reason your forum software removed the links. I'll try again.

Dog outline images created by cropping with Print Shop on
http://woebgonbassets.com/WoebgonBassets/Welcome.html

The text from Art Text is the text in a western font that looks like wood as you scroll down page
http://woebgonbassets.com/WoebgonBassets/Present_Litters.html

Website for Art Text --- http://www.belightsoft.com/products/arttext/overview.php
Website for The Print Shop --- http://www.mackiev.com/print_shop.html


Sorry I can't tell you more. Thanks for any help or "fix" you can give on this issue.

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User: Don B. 9 years ago
I tried editing Post #3 and your forum program posted the changes as Post #4. Sorry!!
User: Don B. 9 years ago
Art Text and Print Shop issues are solved! Both programs let me save the images as a png file and that can be imported into EverWeb as you stated, with a transparent background. I've never worked with png files before.

Super! It's a little more involved than I'd like because it adds a couple more steps but it's still possible. Thanks for your help. Now to convince my wife and the club I'm webmaster for to chip in to buy me the program. In the mean time I'll continue converting the approximately 400 pages in both websites over the the trial program. I need to do that before I can publish it anyway.

Thanks.
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User: Roddy 9 years ago
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I did notice the widget for 3-D test but the link didn't work. I'm assuming that if I used it I would still have to use web safe fonts.


Widgets such as the one for creating 3D Headings uses Google hosted fonts with a web safe fallback in case the hosted font fails.

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Roddy

Website: http://everwebwidgets.com
Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html
NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own.


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