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User: Courtney H. 12 years ago
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I have to say I'm quite a bit disappointed with Everweb. I like the program and it's a good replacement for iWeb. I rebuilt a client's iWeb site in Everweb using the demo to see how it would look. It was good so I bought it. I then and then attempted to upload it to the existing site host (GoDaddy). What a mess. I understand trying to steer people to the Everweb hosting, but to make those who choose not to do that apparently have to jump through hoops and that's poor business. Uploading from a web design program using GoDaddy's FTP program is a course in frustration. First its certificate is out of date and OSX won't let it run - as it should. After crippling security I got the FTP to load and go but it is a bear to use. Every other design program I have lets me enter the web site information and upload directly. I fiddle with the sites I build and can make dozens of changes in an evening. Having to battle GoDaddy each time is simple not worth the effort and aggravation. If I've missed something I'd be glad to hear what it is so I can get my normally good humor back. If not, I really need to return this thing. Crippleware .is not good. Sorry. ------------------------------- MrCourtney - Honolulu, HI -------------------------------------- Mac Studio - dial monitors; iMac 27 5K - Dual Monitors - 10 TB hub Alienware: Area 51 - 24 gb - Dual Monitors - All SSD 25 TB network storage |
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User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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Quote: What a mess. I understand trying to steer people to the Everweb hosting, but to make those who choose not to do that apparently have to jump through hoops and that's poor business. Sorry for the problems you are experiencing. Just to point out, we do not cripple the software in any way when using third party hosting. We are just able to provide better synchronization and features when we control both the server and the web builder (much like the experience with MobileMe). There must be something else going on here that we can definitely help you fix. If you can describe in more detail what kind of problems you are having when publishing to FTP, I am sure I can help you. I have a feeling it is probably something we can get fixed very easily especially if everything looked good when you previewed in your browser. Also note that whatever your website looks like in your web browser is what it will look like when you publish to your FTP server. Sometimes though web hosting services can have different configurations which may affect how your website functions. Obviously we cannot control this though but that is why we do provide the option to get web hosting as well so that you can be assured that everything will work as expected and there won't be any unanticipated issues. But just to re-iterate, we do not cripple the software, or change the way your web page is generated when using third party web hosting providers. ------------------------------- Paul EverWeb Developer |
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User: Courtney H. 12 years ago
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Paul - Thank you for taking the time to answer. I didn't mean for my post to be as negative as it was. The problem with the GoDaddy FTP are outlined above with the certificate error so I went with FileZilla. The point I was making is in-program uploads are built into almost every web design program these days. Using an outside FTP is uncommon and adds so many more layers to a simple site post. Making a series of small adjustments to the site requires multiple postings to a folder and uploading via FTP. That's a lot of steps for minor adjustments when it can be done from in program (like iWeb did). The client was publishing to the same GoDaddy account so it's not an issue with MobileMe. I'm talking about usability and not end result. Publishing to a folder and then FTP'ing is a hack when it can be done much more simple (from the user prospective) from within the EverWeb program directly. I've sat through meetings where we've discussed what to put in (or not) to a program and something like that hits me as a decision that would have been discussed and weighed. For whatever reason, it is what it is. I'm just disappointed that this was not really clear until the program was purchased and uploads were attempted. Yes, it works. No, it's not the simple or the easiest way to do it and for people like me that constantly adjust a site and it's an irritant. I agree - EverWeb is *not* crippleware and that was a poor choice of words from me. My apology for that. The program is elegant and easy to use and it's obvious the amount of passion and work that went into it. It's just disappointing that it fails so badly when it comes to this one - and last - important step. Once the site is posted I may not have to update (or fiddle with it) much. If so, I can do it and move on. If the client wants lots of tweaks then it becomes expensive for them because of the additional time for publish to a folder - FTP - look - change - repeat. That's all I was trying to say. In-program publishing is the preferred way to go and I'm just disappointed it's not provided. Thanks for listening. ------------------------------- MrCourtney - Honolulu, HI -------------------------------------- Mac Studio - dial monitors; iMac 27 5K - Dual Monitors - 10 TB hub Alienware: Area 51 - 24 gb - Dual Monitors - All SSD 25 TB network storage |
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User: Yelena 12 years ago
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Quote: I'm just disappointed that this was not really clear until the program was purchased and uploads were attempted. Yes, it works. No, it's not the simple or the easiest way to do it and for people like me that constantly adjust a site and it's an irritant. As a long-time (by now) user of EW I just have to add my 5-cents... I use both EW hosting and a 3-rd party host. I do not experience any difficulties publishing to a 3rd party with EW. Maybe you should give it a minute to see what the problem is before making such harsh judgements...:) ------------------------------- Yelena MacBook Pro OS X 10.10.3 IMac 21" OS X 10.10.3 |
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User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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Hi Courtney, It sounds like you're using an older version of EverWeb. The latest 1.3 release offers direct FTP publishing from within EverWeb. You can download the update from our site without losing any previous work done. ------------------------------- Paul EverWeb Developer |
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