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User: Roddy 12 years ago
It's back to the same old problem. You have different IDs for the menus on different pages.

For example, one page with the solid line has the ID 5 and one with the dotted line has ID 22

It would be far better if the menu used a class and IDs were only added if the user was wanting to add a second menu. Why would anybody want a second menu - isn't one enough?

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User: derekgtbaby 12 years ago
[quote="Roddy":1ayr0aks]It's back to the same old problem. You have different IDs for the menus on different pages.

For example, one page with the solid line has the ID 5 and one with the dotted line has ID 22

It would be far better if the menu used a class and IDs were only added if the user was wanting to add a second menu. Why would anybody want a second menu - isn't one enough?[/quote:1ayr0aks]

You are right. You will only ever need one drop down menu. If you wanted to add different navigation options you can always have a single link or a list of links but I can't see another reason for having additional drop down menus.
User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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1. When I copy and paste the navigation from page to page it changes the "dotted line" to a "solid line". I like the dotted line.


This doesn't sound like something EasyWeb does, rather something you have done with custom code in your Head Code field

[quote:1gpm43gf]2. I've changed the name on the "Navigation Display Name" and it has added strange text to the menu now. Take a look: http://www.gtbaby.com/hauckeasyweb/home/index.html[/quote:1gpm43gf]

Can you post a screenshot to show what you see because I am not sure if I am looking at the right thing.

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User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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It's back to the same old problem. You have different IDs for the menus on different pages.


For example, one page with the solid line has the ID 5 and one with the dotted line has ID 22


If you only have one navigation bar the id number will always be 0 so no problem for majority of people to use this advanced feature.

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It would be far better if the menu used a class and IDs were only added if the user was wanting to add a second menu. Why would anybody want a second menu - isn't one enough?


Not that easy to do, but if you only have one menu, the id will always be 0. If someone did want a second menu it would have an id of 1 and unless they used arrange->send to back on the second nav bar it would always be consistent.

So to clarify, with only one nav bar the id will only be 0. If the user adds more navbars they will still be consistent unless they send the second navbar to the back.

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User: Roddy 12 years ago
How are users getting all these different IDs? I can't replicate it!

It seems to be a fairly widespread problem because people aren't designing a navigation and sticking with it.

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User: derekgtbaby 12 years ago
[quote="Roddy":3mihp6r9]How are users getting all these different IDs? I can't replicate it!

It seems to be a fairly widespread problem because people aren't designing a navigation and sticking with it.[/quote:3mihp6r9]

This is the process I've used.

1. create a "Main Page" I designed a navigation based on the look that I would like for my site.
2. create a "Directory" and add pages inside the directory for breakdown/sub pages.
3. copy the menu from the "Main Page" and insert that menu on the "directory Page" and the "Sub pages"

I just started from scratch. I have added several different "head code" menu styles to make them all have the correct design look but they still don't all work properly even though I copied and pasted them from the home page.

http://www.gtbaby.com/neweasyweb/index.html
User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
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How are users getting all these different IDs? I can't replicate it!


They are either re-arranging their navigation bars from under the Arrange menu or they are adding their navigation bars after they have already added shapes or objects to their site.

FYI, the ID fix just mentioned will be released in beta 24 so its not there yet.

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User: Roddy 12 years ago
I don't use shapes so that explains it.

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User: Paul-RAGESW 12 years ago
By shapes I mean any object - images, text etc...

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User: Christopher 12 years ago
[quote="Roddy":1brtywo6]Why would anybody want a second menu - isn't one enough?[/quote:1brtywo6]
Come on, Roddy, a little variety is the spice of life. Everyone's not going to do things your way all the time! Just 90% of the time...

You gonna tell me you've never been to a website that had more than one drop down or navigation like menu?

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User: Roddy 12 years ago
When I said...

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I don't use shapes so that explains it.


... I was being facetious and most humbly apologize for my inexcusable behavior of last night. I will try to do better today.

What I don't understand is why the ID of the menu is changed when using the Arrange menu. The navigation has a z-index of 1000 anyway. Why would a user feel the need to rearrange it's position in the stacking order?

Even if a user was misguided enough to do the above, wouldn't it be more usual to change the z-index rather than the navigation ID?

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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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You gonna tell me you've never been to a website that had more than one drop down or navigation like menu?


I don't recall that I have but there's always the exception that proves the rule.

I think it would be better to cater for the vast majority who want an easily customized menu rather than the odd extrovert who wants two or more.

As I pointed out above, I don't understand why the menu ID has to be changed when using the Arrange menu rather than the z-index value.

OK, change the ID if the user adds a second (or third or fourth) menu but leave the original one at zero.

Users seem to be adding menus in different ways and chopping and changing them rather than designing it right in the first place and then using the same one one every page.

I suppose the problem will be solved when the ability to use a master page is implemented. In the meantime it is creating a lot of confusion - along with the directory index file issue - in the absence of clear instructions. Even instructions don't seem to help much as quite a lot of people think they know better and don't need to read them.

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User: Christopher 12 years ago
Well in my case, I'm designing on the fly and still making changes daily. It'd be a lot easier I agree if I could just create a homepage with navigation, and a couple template pages that were absolutely perfect so I could just duplicate them and amend as the site grows. (That's still my goal!) But just like writing is about rewriting, and a painter's work is never done, the drag and drop ease of this site gives us the ability to keep trying new things till we get it right. Which at this point, means a lot of paste and copy with header/footer content, and menu ID's constantly changing.

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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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I'm designing on the fly


Why don't you create a test project for all your "fly" stuff and then transfer the "keepers" to the real thing.

I have looked at the source code for some sites where there's all sorts of "experimental" stuff that hasn't been deleted along with some complete rubbish that has obviously been copied over from iWeb.

When you have finished all you experimenting it's probably worth opening your published files in a code editor just to look for this kind of stuff and check the syntax etc.

Looking at the source code for all my hastily put together test sites I can see that the first thing I would do is to delete all these snippets of CSS and put them together in an external stylesheet. Now why did I not think of that?

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