Viewing Custom Fonts

Custom Fonts



User: Les C. 10 years ago
It would be a godsend if EverWeb would automatically upload all fonts (custom) used throughout a site along with the associated code.
User: Roddy 10 years ago
Fonts need to be available in at least three file types on the server. How would EverWeb find these files - even if they were available on your computer?

There's some info about how to use self hosted fonts HERE. It's not too difficult to set this up for a whole website by inserting the code into the Site Wide Head Code box.

Fonts should be chosen for maximum readability. Mixing font types, in general, is not a good idea.

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Roddy

Website: http://everwebwidgets.com
Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html
NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own.
User: Les C. 10 years ago
--Roddy

I don't quite understand the response. If the fonts are available locally on my system, selected, and displayed within EverWeb, why can't EW write the additional code and upload the source files? Isn't this what your widget does to a lesser extent?

Also, a number of other applications, such as MUSE and Maccaw, do this for their users, so it is not a feature that is impossible to carry out.


L C
User: Roddy 10 years ago
The fonts are not available in all the required formats. You need TTF, EOT and WOFF.

The widgets only add the font name. They do not upload the actual files.

Widgets that allow the user to choose a non websafe font have a control for adding a fallback websafe font. If you choose a font which is available on Macs, but not on computers running Windows, the fallback font will appear when the visitor is using a Windows machine.

The way in which you insert non websafe fonts will depend on where you are publishing to. If publishing to a server other than the EverWeb one, the font files can be uploaded to a fonts folder on the server using an FTP app.

If publishing to the EverWeb server, the font has to added to EverWeb Assets in the three different formats and then linked to in the code provide on the page I referred to above.

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Roddy

Website: http://everwebwidgets.com
Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html
NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own.
User: Jumbo T. 10 years ago
Les, here's the explanation how to add ONE custom font to Macaw :

http://docs.macaw.co/#fonts

It's not what you think EW should do for you.

Besides that, make sure your font license allows the use of the font in webpages.
User: Paul-RAGESW 10 years ago
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I don't quite understand the response. If the fonts are available locally on my system, selected, and displayed within EverWeb, why can't EW write the additional code and upload the source files?


We can, we just haven't implemented this functionality. As Jumbo pointed out, you are not legally allowed to publish many font files to your web server. You need to actually own the license for the fonts. Some fonts allow you to freely use them within images on the web. You should check the license for the ones you want to use and then use the Export text as Image Settings in the Inspector->Text Settings.

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Also, a number of other applications, such as MUSE and Maccaw, do this for their users, so it is not a feature that is impossible to carry out.


Actually they don't. They provide the same support for Google Fonts that EverWeb does. Plus they may support TypeKit fonts but TypeKit fonts are not free. You can easily add support for TypeKit fonts in EverWeb if you need them by pasting the link in the Header Code field.

I recommend you stick with Google Fonts and Web safe fonts even if/when we add support for automatic uploading of font files.

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Paul
EverWeb Developer
User: Les C. 10 years ago
Guys, I am grateful for your feedback. And I genuinely appreciate the challenges presented of both appropriate use and logistics of web fonts.

Here's the thing: We are collectively engaged in (whether that be application design, support, or creative activity of) 'web design'—not 'web posting.' As such, this requires more than the simple uploading of informational text and associated imagery. There are technical as well as artistic requirements to 'affect' the viewer—emotionally and intellectually. Our design choices and accurate manifestation thereof, as they shape and influence the visual medium, are crucial to realizing said objective. Execution, as such, cannot be left to coincidence. Meaning making will not happen by chance. In short, our fonts need to display properly.

While further researching this topic, I came across an interesting site (http://www.cssfontstack.com) that presents a list of probabilities of how likely a font will be properly be seen on an average viewer's screen. The results are less than convincing. I've also read through articles that discuss the difficulties inherit of using Google fonts and Typeset fonts. Also, not a slam-dunk. I concur that font use on the web isn't an easy problem to fully address.

One-hundred percent is not an objective here. For example, I am not looking to have a three generational old version of Internet Explorer properly see a site I put together. On the other hand, if the tools and knowledge are available to help produce a better web application that serves such a fundamental element of design that every user of that application can take advantage of, why not incorporate the technology? Proper display of fonts is a keystone to web design that affects all other associated elements.

The only substantive argument that has been presented why not to incorporate this functionality (and it has been established that the functionality can be added) involves the availability of fonts that a designer may or may not have the legal right to use. But this is like saying I won't sell knifes because the purchaser will use them inappropriately. Following that argument, we restrict all sales of bladed instruments including scalpels to surgeons, cleavers to butchers, and so on.

I corroborate the points made that it must be up to a user to supply all versions of a font, that there should be a fall back font, and that one should possess licenses for use. But limiting a design to only a half a dozen web safe fonts that at best display properly on 90% of screens isn't a viable solution either, at least not for 'web design.'

So, if we have the possibility to make more engaging, informative, and useful web sites, why don't we?

Again, I would love to see EverWeb incorporate this feature in a future update.
User: Paul-RAGESW 10 years ago
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear in my last response. We do plan on adding this. I was just emphasizing the legality issues because most people are unaware of this.

If you google custom fonts with EverWeb you will find instructions on easily adding them to EverWeb even now though.

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Paul
EverWeb Developer
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User: Les C. 10 years ago
--Paul

Very welcomed news!


L C


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