Viewing Nav menu widget menu options more selectable
Nav menu widget menu options more selectable
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User: wellnl 10 years ago
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| If you want pages on mobile to have different nav menu pages than desktop you can't do this at present. Also if you have a need for two different nav menus on your site you can't do that e.g. If I want one nav menu to have five options but in another instance just 4 I cannot do this. Would be nice to be able to build nav menus that allow the flexibility to include/exclude menu options as desired. | |
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User: wellnl 10 years ago
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User: Raf P. 10 years ago
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Pick on with this one please. http://billing.ragesw.com/forum.php?act=thread&tid=3973 ------------------------------- Kind regards, Raphael Pairoux |
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User: itay 10 years ago
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Yes, a similar discussion was in this post http://billing.ragesw.com/forum.php?act=thread&tid=3973 The main problem is that a real menu widget is missing in here. the current menu widget is not acting as all the other widgets (i mean it can not be added and edited separately) it is an integral part of the site which is ok, but it is not a widget (its more like a settings of the site menu rather than a separate widget that you can add more than one time and edit it), and therefore (because the user sees it like the other widgets which you can add and use more than ones) the user's expectations are wrong, and here comes the "problems”: There is no solution for mobile menu You can not add additional menu with selected pages (new menu) You are unable to control the pages displayed on the menu page at a time (It should be emphasised that these were not problems in the current menu. actually it is the description of the menu widget that i think everweb must add). Rody offer almost a perfect solution to this with his few menus widgets which are excellent but the problem with them is that they are in some cases limited to design by the user (eg this reason I have not made it possible to work with them), according to Rody, the reason to this is that he is limited to put more parameters to edit the widgets because there is a certain height of the widgets settings window that he must stand in (everweb developers request), this reason is quite disappointing and surprising and i response to it in the post I mentioned above (I think that the quality of the widgets is much more important than interface limits issues that can easily be solved), it is important for the widgets developers not to be limited in order to let them provide the users an excellent widgets without compromise on quality. the best solution to this problem should still come from everweb because this is something essential for a web site and not a small extra (each site with a catalog of products or services need to have one more menu). Extra special menus will always be welcome by the widgets creators.. Bottom line, there are two recommendations (Feature requests) : Create a new additional menu (like every other widget), rather than disposable. Or fix the current menu widget which you can add and select each time (for each page) which pages will be showing on it. Provide a solution to the widget interface settings window for the widgets creators so they will not be limited to create great and quality widgets. I really hope that everweb guys will understand the high importance of this issue and try to fix it |
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User: Roddy 10 years ago
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The EverWeb navigation widget is built into the application so that the links to the active pages can be added automatically. The widget icon exists in the Widget panel so that it can be inserted if the user wants to use it. We need to remember that it must be easy to use by those who are at beginner level. The only comment I would make about it is that it could do with more styling options or to have its styles inserted as a class rather than an ID to make it easier for more advanced users to style it - with code or a widget. I can't see how it could be made so that the user can select different pages to be listed on a page by page basis unless a box was added to the Page inspector to "add Page to Second Menu", "Add Page to Third Menu" etc. The page inspector is quite crowded without adding controls that very few people would use. Those EverWeb users who are looking for advanced features to cater for the needs of clients should look to code injection for achieving this. It is possible to create widgets which do all the heavy lifting and just require the user enter the HTML like the Two Level Mobile Navigation. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to use it - just a basic knowledge of HTML lists. Using this method, the navigation can be tailored to suit every page and the current page list item can have different styles to let the visitor know where they are rather than use breadcrumbs. I can - and have - created custom versions of navigation widgets for individual users. I have never charged for this service which, as you can imagine, is quite time consuming. However, I do feel that it is unfair of professional designers to expect me to solve the design problems created by their clients requirements for free when they are getting paid! It's also unfair to expect advanced features which will complicate the app for the majority of users who are not web design professionals. The EverWeb Codebox site was started to introduce EverWeb's method of code injection which allows more advanced users to create more or less anything the want. Judging by the problems users have with inserting customcode, not many even bother to learn about it. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: itay 10 years ago
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Roddy, I AM talking about the beginner’s user's. i think that the advance users know how to add a menu using the html snippet, (although it is better to have it as a widget) but anyway my recommendation was for the new users Maybe there is a misunderstanding in here about what I’m talking about, I’m talking about a menu widget that the user can add and in the settings he can decide which pages will be show in it. it will solve the problem. in the current widget, if you place it one time and you add it to other page, all the pages that selected to show in it will be shown so you cannot use it again for other pages, Here is an example of a website pages: about service media catalog * gallery 1 * gallery 2 * gallery 3 contact there is one master page for (about/service/media/contact) and there is another master page for catalog and all his sub pages (gallery pages). what i mean is that in the first master page the user need one menu and in the catalog master page the user will be needed other menu that will contain only the sub catalog pages. you understand what i mean? i don’t think that menu's should be limit at all in a website, user can also decide to add more menus to more sub pages.. it is not advance and not complicated the software at all, i think the opposite is right. i think it is very basic for any new user to have the option to add many menu’s he like. As a widget, the pages should be selected from the widget settings instead of the page details inspector, this way it will act as a real widget and also will clear the detail page panel from one check box. if the user decide to use the widget he can add it and set it in the widget settings. (select pages and design). but anyway and without getting in to a large changes. i think that meanwhile it will be very smart to make this kind of widget while the developer understand the needs (its really basic needs). of course all the idea is to have the option to select the pages from the widget.. I don’t really understand from where it comes from but i don’t think you should created custom widgets for free. it is very nice that you have done it and you support your customers, but i think it should cost to anyone that asks (if you don’t think you should add it to your widgets to sale it to others). by the way, about myself, this is not my work and i am not making money of it, i do other things :) I’m only enjoy to play with it and create websites with everweb for fun.. its an hobby for me. I’m using this forum in order to improve things in the software i am dealing with, These are just my recommendations that I think will benefit the most users. |
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User: Roddy 10 years ago
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Quote: the user will be need other menu that will contain only the sub catalog pages A widget can be used for a sub menu since there would usually only be a few items in it. An example of using a main and sub menu can be seen in the Flex demo. Open a directory page and then narrow the browser to the width of an iPad. Two icons appear - one to reveal the main nav and the other the sub for that directory. You can use the same method on any type of website to avoid using a drop down menu. If the sub nav only appears in the directory pages, visitors have a better idea of where they are in the site. If all the pages were to be listed in the navigation menu widget settings, how would they all fit in? The sections of the EverWeb Codebox site each contain about 150 pages. There's no way that number of items would fit. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: itay 10 years ago
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I think that a simple window with a list of all the possible pages inside (like the assets window) can contain large quantity of pages and can work just fine. How many images can be in the assets list window? it's the same window like you made in the "touch image navigation menu" widget. Also there is a place for sections and check boxes (to choose the pages to be shown in the menu).. Add to it the design options (horizontal or vertical, colors and transparency), It will offer a perfect solution to the example above. |
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User: Roddy 10 years ago
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Quote: How many images can be in the assets list window? That window can only be used to add files from the external files folder. I have often wished that it could be used for other purposes such as creating navigation, lists and tables. The "Link to:" control can't be used in it either. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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