Viewing Directory or Page - or Both?
Directory or Page - or Both?
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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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In my usual state of total confusion I don't really know if this is a suggestion or a bug so I will open it for discussion. When I visit a site with a drop down menu I never click on the Directory name since I know that a directory is a folder and not a page. EasyWeb creates an index page when a directory is created and some users add content to this not realizing that people like me won't even see it! I personally would leave this page blank and use a meta redirect in the page head code to send visitors who actually click it to the first page in the directory. Or insert the hash sign in place of the URL in the navigation menu code as is normal practice in web design. I notice that quite a few beta testers are adding content to this index.html file and are going to wonder why nobody visits it when they peruse their stats. This "inadequacy" would need to be pointed out to users. I think it would be a lot better if, when a directory was created, the folder appeared in the sidebar with the arrow turned down and the first blank page - the one chosen for the directory - showing below it. That leaves the question of what would appear in the design area when the arrow was pointing horizontally? ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: pumpkin 12 years ago
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I never really thought about this "issue". I created directories (not using one for the index page though) and I do fill them with content. For me a directory is (and behaves) like a normal page.
------------------------------- Darian new to web design ______________________ My websites: <b>Vocal Affairs</b> // <b>Singkehlchen</b> |
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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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Quote: For me a directory is (and behaves) like a normal page. My point is that it shouldn't. The page that appears in EasyWeb when you create a directory is an index.html. When it is opened in the browser, it appears as - directory-name/index.html A directory is a folder which contains files (pages). The directory itself is not a file. It has a name but no file extension. Imagine your website is a cabinet of folders and files. If you are going to have an index file it should have a list of the folder contents - not actual content. The EasyWeb way is like writing on the actual folder rather than a page within it. I'm not arguing about semantics here - I'm saying that it is confusing and will lead to visitors missing key pages of a site. If EasyWeb is going to create an index.html in a directory then that file should forward the visitor to the first page that they see in the drop down. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: martinmcnolie 12 years ago
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| For me, the directory should NOT be a page with content. The content should be on the pages in the drop-down menu, otherwise it becomes very confusing for the visitor to the site... | |
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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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I wonder if admin has looked at this topic?
------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: Christopher 12 years ago
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Ahem. I raised this issue about 2 months ago: viewtopic.php?f=6...t=673 I've since designed a page for the title of my directory but have been rethinking this as of late. I agree with Roddy that it's easy to overlook when you visit the site, hover over "Movie Clips" (in my situation) and see a list of genres below where you will naturally be inclined to click. Personally, I'd like to have the OPTION of killing or disabling this button, or linking it to a page. Must we have to overwrite everything with code?? ------------------------------- rMBP 15", 2.6 Ghz, 16 GB RAM, OS X 10.11.6, with 27" Thunderbolt Cinema Display www.cleetche.com |
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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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My apologies, I just reread your topic. I try to memorize all the topics in the forum but sometimes I forget one or two! The code produced for the "directory" page in the menu is this... <a class="main item0" href="index.html">Directory Name</a>It should read... <a class="main item0" href="#">Directory Name</a>... if you don't want this to be live. Changing this in the code is not easy since it is in the HTML and you would have to overwrite it post publishing every time you published. The problem is the fact that EasyWeb creates a folder and an index.html file when it should just be creating a folder. When you create a directory and choose a theme, the folder should appear in the sidebar with the arrow turned down along with the first "real" page. When the arrow is turned horizontally it would be better if the design canvas had a message saying something like "This is a folder - not a page. Why would you want to insert content on the folder itself when you can use pages inside it?" I suppose you could have a checkbox in the inspector that will add the hash sign to the folder anchor tag when checked. It would make more sense to have it the other way around so that the folder is NOT a page by default. My reasoning here is that more people would want to follow the conventions of web design rather than confuse their visitors. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: darrendixie123456789 12 years ago
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i completely agree that you should not be able to click on the directory, only the sub-pages. The first time I created one these using EasyWeb I did populate the directory so it looked something like this: PRODUCTS Product 1 Product 2 Product 3 Product 4 Product 5 ---View all products--- I have recently copied and pasted the ---View all products--- page contents over to the directory page (PRODUCTS). I figured it was a workaround to double them up should someone be a little 'click happy'. You know the type, those that double click links, or click three, four times thinking it will make a difference when a link only needs on click. Click happy people will see what they expect (the same as ---View All---) if they click on the directory. It is however unnecessary if 'quick draw Mcgraw' can click the directory at all! |
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User: Guest 12 years ago
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[quote="Roddy":20e3sbim]Quote: For me a directory is (and behaves) like a normal page. My point is that it shouldn't. The page that appears in EasyWeb when you create a directory is an index.html. When it is opened in the browser, it appears as - directory-name/index.html A directory is a folder which contains files (pages). The directory itself is not a file. It has a name but no file extension. Imagine your website is a cabinet of folders and files. If you are going to have an index file it should have a list of the folder contents - not actual content. The EasyWeb way is like writing on the actual folder rather than a page within it. I'm not arguing about semantics here - I'm saying that it is confusing and will lead to visitors missing key pages of a site. If EasyWeb is going to create an index.html in a directory then that file should forward the visitor to the first page that they see in the drop down.[/quote:20e3sbim] I agree it's confusing. I had content on the directory pages, so now I copied the content, then added a page and pasted it. I gave the new page a slightly different name than the directory so it doesn't look redundant in the menu list. It would be better if the directory automatically redirected to the first page to avoid the duplication. |
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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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I wonder why admin has made no comment about this? Couldn't there at least be an option to replace the URL of the directory with the hash sign so that the link is dead. Quite a number of users are being caught out by this rather unusual idea of magically turning a folder into a page. ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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User: Yelena 12 years ago
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I agree, it would be better if the directory was not an active link.
------------------------------- Yelena MacBook Pro OS X 10.10.3 IMac 21" OS X 10.10.3 |
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User: Christopher 12 years ago
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Well at this stage in the game, we would need the option of doing both. Because many of us have already designed a page for the directory header.
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User: Roddy 12 years ago
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Quote: many of us have already designed a page for the directory header If you had a folder full of files in your filing cabinet, would you print the content of a file on the folder itself? ------------------------------- Roddy Website: http://everwebwidgets.com Contact: http://everwebwidgets.com/ewWidgets-home/contact.html NOTE: I am an EverWeb user and NOT affiliated with EverWeb! Any opinions expressed in this forum are my own. |
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